Charlotte Mason – Heidi Thoughts Part III

You can find part I and II below.

I decided to not go past volume 3 right now, the others are geared towards older children & some broader issues. Good reads, no doubt, but I need to focus on some other things right now so this will be the last summary for awhile.

Obedience – training children. Verbally state need, physically follow up. Explain (whenever possible) the why and the natural consequence. Then move to verbally state, and expecting there will be obedience but still follow up. Then move to verbal and presume it will be done. Try to let natural consequences follow.

Children need to see options and be able to choose the right for themselves, not because of fear of punishment or disapproval from parents. Must find internal motivation to choose right. But teach why, explain moral foundation for why this is important – and – explain social significance. We do not tease because we speak kindly and show love for others (scriptural reference.) When we tease (natural consequence) we hurt feelings and friends do not want to be around you. I think both reasons are important to explain in core/grammar stage, when children are young and need to see direct concrete impact of their actions. When older, will have moral understanding and better understand abstract moral reasons.

Children should be given transition time. As adults we can check time and be aware of schedule and transition ourselves. Children need help learning to budget time and transition. (Raising your Spirited Child book)

Masterly inactivity (Parenting Breakthrough book!!!) – do not take charge when your child is learning skill. Teach, inspire, then allow them to do it themselves. Don’t steal their opportunity to learn!!

Be confident in your decisions – you are the parent.

Trust your children – if you have helped them develop good habits, be confident in their ability to choose the right. But be mindful of their location and activities.

Take time for yourself and your needs.

Children should – be free in their play (not dictated in all activites.)
– be given freedom in their creativity and work intitiatives
– stand or fall in their own efforts
– choose their own friends
– spend their own money as they see fit
– form their own opinions

“Exposure to a multitude of ideas is necessary because we don’t know which idea will spark a child and lead to great deeds later.”

Children should be skilled and confident in public speaking, a skill crucial for leaders and all citizens. (Thomas Jefferson Education – leadership education)

“Charlotte lists three underlying principles of her schools: 1)––Authority as a law is universal 2)––Habit training is a vital part of education 3)––Ideas have power to inspire.”

Education is a life, an atmosphere, and a discipline.

Knowledge we gather ourselves makes the strongest impression – allow them to discover, to form a relationship with the author. But we must watch reaction, be there for narration & discussion, and ensure we provide living books instead of textbooks or twaddle.

Encourage development of relationships – with ideas, with people, with concepts, with nature, with world to be discovered. Do not attempt to censor entire world for them, but do protect them from inappropriate things.

“It is mostly suburban parents who try to manufacture learning experiences, because the limitations of that environment don’t offer the rich opportunities that are a natural part of country life. Children learn more from keeping up with other children in free play in a natural environment than from formal lessons contrived to learn skating, hockey and tennis.” (Pondering on that!!) Says better a summer in the lake than 6 weeks of swimming course.

“It is mostly suburban parents who try to manufacture learning experiences, because the limitations of that environment don’t offer the rich opportunities that are a natural part of country life. Children learn more from keeping up with other children in free play in a natural environment than from formal lessons contrived to learn skating, hockey and tennis.”

Four ways we may squash a natural love of learning-
too much explaining instead of encouraging exploring
too many lectures instead of allowing them to form connections
textbooks instead of living books
competition to motivate, instead of inherent value of learning

Until eight year olds, plan to read to kids. After eight may be able to do more reading on own but still – keep reading aloud sometimes. 🙂

“Children are too valuable to be used as guinea pigs of educational fads.”

Charlotte Mason – Heidi Thoughts Part II

Part I, thoughts on Volume I, updated.

Volume II thoughts:

family – children should feel content at home so do not seek contentment (approval) elsewhere, but also remain aware of needs of community outside their home

parents are to inspire children by their example (educational, spiritual, social – manners, how we treat others) – Thomas Jefferson Education, mentors’ job is to inspire students to want to learn

children need to learn to analyze and question their own opinions & faith so when facing the world, they know where their faith & beliefs are based and are not shaken. just because it’s in a book, doesn’t mean it’s true (ditto, if it’s on the internet that does not make it FACT!) faith is not based on evidence and that’s okay, but understand concept of faith and reason and develop own strong testimony.

needs to know THEY control their thoughts and have power to dismiss thoughts and to embrace better ones.

begin in early years to develop self control, realize we are in charge of our reaction things (well before six years!) and that we choose how to express our emotions – what’s appropriate and what is not (say you are angry, not okay to hit)

HUGE FOCUS POINT, very important to me we explain & demonstrate this concept – explaining that no one can “make” us angry, emotions & thoughts may come to us but we choose which to focus on, which to express, how we treat others. it’s OUR CHOICE and we are accountable for our reactions to situations.

show by our example that WE feel various emotions and verbalize to them how we feel and how we are handling it. show by example our self control. if we snap or yell, apologize and try again.

family pride – unity, identity

believe that hearts can change (in adults and in our children) and do not despair by improper habits – know that it can be changed (and the younger they are, the easier it is to redirect and replace with positive habits.)

nagging is not training, it teaches kids that we will be their constant reminder. must train children and trust that they will be accountable. habit training – teach, instruct, demonstrate, follow up. then slowly back away over time – verbal reminders. but work to point that assumption is child IS accountable and faithful to task (lessons, chores, proper behavior) and our expression of faith in their good habits encourages. if something is forgotten, discuss it and express faith it will be fixed.

train senses – spend time focusing on gift of sense and recognizing. what do we smell? what do we hear? painting picture – what did you see? how does this taste? close eyes and describe. increases awareness of surroundings, appreciation for sense & our world, can help with memory

teach reverence for sacred things by example and by discussion

teach sensitivity to others’ emotions – address teasing

teach children to NOT be constantly worried about others’ opinions of them, a child always wondering what others thing of them “is looking inward rather than reaching out to others.” teach them to lose selves in service and will be less worried about themselves

expect accuracy and honesty from children – and demonstrate it for them. do not exaggerate, do not make excuses that are misleading, be tactful but honest.

children grow at their own pace, we must not dilute the ideas/concepts we present to them but present it all and allow them to make their own connections. DO NOT DUMB IT DOWN FOR THEM.

when a bad habit is formed, plant the seed of a positive alternative. If child is being greedy, plant seed of generosity by example and explanation. Allow positive habits to replace bad, don’t try to simply break bad habits.

teach children to ask why & to analyze their own ideas – don’t assume your views are “right” and be open to idea that you are biased and need to consider other perspectives. (see faith note – others will question their faith/beliefs and if have not considered where their foundation is, much harder to stand firm and explain own testimony. question not to dismiss own faith, but to strengthen.)

pause, consider where you have come from and what direction you are heading. don’t just keep going, sometimes course correction is needed.

teach children to not focus on discomforts (scratchy clothes, being cold, being tired) but to focus on lesson, to develop fortitude and focus so as to not be always distracted. to remove focus from self. (Interesting dilemma for children with sensory disorder and input that is beyond “typical” levels of distraction, but part of therapy was teaching sensory kids to “tune out” distraction and by exposure to it to be able to move beyond.) move beyond sensory distractions/annoyances and focus on concepts, ideas, lessons – higher focus. good practice for real world when distractions from work/reading/situation are often beyond our control and we must learn to tune them out and still accomplish what’s important.

teach them we control where our mind focuses and we must learn to control our reaction to sensory input even if we cannot control our environment. (Thinking of labor, pain & ability to focus on other things to tune out or cope with pain.)

Awareness (of senses, of direction we are heading, of habits, of values, of beliefs, of others’ needs) and ability to focus our minds, redirect and rise above temporal.

Discussion

If you have read or plan to read any of the Charlotte Mason works, Well Trained Mind, or the Thomas Jefferson Education, would you let me know? I always appreciate the chance to hear other’s thoughts on these works, it helps me to learn from you and get your perspective. You can leave a comment here or email me – all comments, even on old posts, are emailed to me.

Thank you!!

Thomas Jefferson Education II – my take

My other post on the Thomas Jefferson Education book.

Okay, skimming it again before I pass it onto another sister –

stages of learning:
core (0 to 8 years)
love of learning (8 to 12)
scholar (12 to 16)
depth (16 to 22, college years)

Comparable to classical approach of grammar, logic (or dialectic), and rhetoric. Get the facts in, begin to analyze arguments, then begin to form own arguments.

George Wythe method:
1. classics, not textbooks (what Charlotte Mason calls “living books”)
2. mentors, not professors – inspire, don’t preach
3. inspire, don’t require
4. structure time, not content – give autonomy
5. quality, not conformity (Charlotte Mason, better one perfect than many sloppy)
6. simplicity, not complexity – stick to the basics, then expand w/passions
7. you, not them – you are the mentor, work on YOUR educational as well

Heidi thoughts – I agree that classics are great and should be used whenever possible. Not just for literature, but classics in history and so on… as he says, there are “classics” in every field, including technical fields. Classics does not mean old, it means foundational works. However, I do not agree that the best way to learn spanish is to read classics in that language (Don Quixote, he suggest). 🙂 Or that math is best learned by reading Euclid. I think in the core/grammar stage that the kids do need to learn math concepts with hands on experience, not by having a classic read to them. Sure, good to cover those things once they’ve mastered reading skills but in the foundational stage I think some textbooks are helpful – teaching math, grammar, etc. Within context, yes, and with hands on experience but sometimes reference books/texts are helpful in things like math.

On that same note, I think structuring time is great but in grammar/foundational stage that structuring content is also important. When helping a child learn basic math and reading and grammar, I need to structure the content (we’ll do math and language this morning) as well as time. I can’t just leave content open before the foundation has been laid for them to master these skills.

Getting started:
1. Forget the kids. Start working on you, then we’ll get to the kids.
2. Read a classic.
3. Read 3 more classics, one per week.
4. Read & annotate a classic. (Declaration of Independence – look up every unclear word & write down definition. Write 10 ideas that interest you. Sit down w/two people and discuss it with them.)
5. Annotate two more classics – write down thoughts, discuss with 2 other people.
6. Once your child is scholar age (12 or whenever you feel ready), then this step. Until then, keep working on first 5 steps and your education. Have your child read one of the classics. Read it yourself and take notes. Set discussion time and be patient – let them open up.
7. Have group discussion on classic (8 people.)
8. Repeat step 7.

Setting weekly schedule –
Designate your study time. Establish their study time. Set daily writing assignments. Schedule weekly discussion time with them to hear what they are reading. (Sounds like narration, but weekly instead of instant feedback of core/grammar stage.) BOTH parents be at discussion time.

Setting monthly schedule –
Designate planning meeting monthly to review schedule & write plans. Write list of classics you’ll read. Classics your child will read. Other subjects scheduled. Schedule group discussion times. Schedule fieldtrips, enrichment activities, and visiting lectures to attend.

Heidi addition – set semester mini & yearly (big!) planning times, to review and set goals, clean up and add to portfolio of writing & projects, and to review direction. Meet with spouse, with family, and each child individually to write up goals and find out what each child wants to study & focus on – what is their passion?

VERY IMPORTANT GOALS – updated

Okay, three things I’m working on:

1) At least SKIMMING the Charlotte Mason readings (in modern English, I’m being lazy and can skim faster in modern) and taking notes for things we want to start working on. Like the “picture painting” during outside time. Need to put special focus on the “habit training” part, too. I need to be trained. 🙂 These are public domain and available at Ambleside Online – a wonderful resource. I’ll post my notes when I’m done (and no, that doesn’t let you off the hook – go read them so I have someone to discuss it with!!)

2) Starting to read the classics. Kit’s english degree meant he read a lot of them in college and how horrible that when Christopher asks me questions about some story I have to send him to Kit for the answer. Resolving to improve MY own education so I can be a better resource for my children. Prompted by an old friend that has decided to homeschool (hooray, and congrats!!) and she’s working on reading the classics because she’s inspired by “A Thomas Jefferson Education” – which I read, and loved, and yet neglected to act on. Going to improve my own education so I can be a better mentor to my children!! And I cannot just read the fun classics I love, I need to get serious in some histories and autobiographies and non-novels. 🙂

3. Kit and I are going to read the Constitution together. I’m going to get my hands on the Thomas Jefferson reading list but we thought especially with this being an election year, isn’t it a good idea to review the Constitution? 🙂 Good place to start… So, go read it and take notes on anything that really strikes you at this point in your life and then we can talk about it! I’m serious, when is the last time any of us read the Constitution?? Probably for me back when I had to memorize the preamble in school. That would be a long time ago. Go read it this month and then we’ll chat. I bought a copy of my college textbook for American Heritage on-line for less than $5, it has copies of those documents in the back (and is a great resource to have on hand!)

So, email or comment if you have suggestions for books I need to read?

A Thomas Jefferson Education

I’m re-reading this, some quotes I like:

“Is the education our children are receiving on par with their potential?”

“The fact is that the only person who can fix education is the student.”

“Teaching, not education, should be our focus, because great teaching inspires students to educate themselves… students are the only true educators… education occurs when students get excited about learning and apply themselves; students do this when they experience great teachers.”

“Without great teaching, through mentors and the classics, the most that schools can offer is socialization, which they often defend as though it were the primary objective of learning.”

“What happens when a society does not prepare leaders? We get managers and professionals leading in areas they have no training for, such as government, and we get a nation of followers who see no problem with that because they have no experience with anything else.”

“The highest level of socialization, the ideal, means the ability to effectively work with people of all backgrounds, stations, and positions, of really caring about them and being able to maintain long term, nurturing relationships.”

“1. Smile throughout. 2. Shower advice. 3. Warn. 4. Encourage. 5. Praise. 6. And most importantly, set the example.”

“There are classics in every field. Name a field – it has classics, works worth studying over and over which provide glaring insight into human nature. Even in the most modern or technical fields there are classics.”

“While the students are getting off the conveyor belt, let them go through the needed transition. They don’t really believe you want them to think. You must prove it to them, and this takes patience.”

Harvard Skills
1. The ability to define problems without a guide.
2. The ability to ask hard questions which challenge prevailing assumptions.
3. The ability to quickly assimilate needed data from masses of irrelevant information.
4. The ability to work in teams without guidance.
5. The ability to work absolutely alone.
6. The ability to persuade others that your course is the right one.
7. The ability to conceptualize and reorganize information into new patterns.
8. The ability to discuss ideas with an eye toward application.
9 & 10. The ability to think inductively, deductively, and dialectically.

Wythe Skills
– understand human nature and lead accordingly
– identify needed traits & turn them into habits
– establish, maintain, improve lasting relationships
– keep life in proper balance
– discern truth and error, independent of source or delivery
– discern true from right
– ability and discipline to do right
– constant improvement

Virtue, wisdom, diplomacy, courage, the ability to inspire greatness in others, the ability to move the cause of liberty.

– Oliver Van DeMille